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went for mitt romney. >> brian: when van jones said romney won you had a good night if you are rom romm. this sound bite is the strongest. we heard big oil accident tax breaks and busting the economy. not only did mitt romney attack this and address this, he grouped in and compared those alleged tax breaks with green energy investments with our money, listen. >> don't forget. you put 90 billion dollars worth of breaks in solar and wind to solyndra, and fis car and tesla and i friend of mine said you don't just pick winners and losers, you pick the losers, this is not the kind of policy to get america energy sescure. second topic you said you get a deduction for taking a plant over sea. i have been in business 25 years and i have no idea what you are talking about. maybe i need a new accountant but the idea for getting a break for shipping jobs over seas is not the case. we do have to bringg money from over seas back to. >> gretchen: that line happened to her. i got to hear that was to me, that is the mitt romney that a lot of people didn't think existed and wanting to see more of which
? >> bill: gosh romney scoring big in the debate last night. all the polls say that. but what happened behind the scenes? krauthammer, beckel, ingraham and kelly will all weigh in. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m., just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. >> bill: al gore said it was the altitude that hurt president obama during the debate ♪ rocky mountain high. >> is the former vice president high? >> you all only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> bill: jon stewart may be getting a bit nervous over my debate with him on saturday. >> o'reilly is 6'5". 250. it's like debating a yeddi. i need to stay away from his paws. if he gets a paw on me. >> it's over. >> bill: we will have the latest on the rumble in washington, d.c. >> bill: caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thank you for watching us tonight. what really happened at the debate last night? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. shortly after the debat
are still on fir tonight about the debate last night. >> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distrac
in denver the guy he faced off against last night was not the real governor romney. >> he said that he doesn't even know that there is such laws that encourage outsourcing. he says that if it's true he must need a new account stand. [ laughter ] now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. >> the romney campaign fired back, quote: president obama offered no defense of his record and no vision for the future. president obama simply offered more false attacks and renewed his call for job-killing tax hikes. earlier today, the president's senior campaign advisor david axelrod said this about the debate. the president's never satisfied with his performance. he is always challenging himself. and he will review it if he wants to make changes in the next debate, he will do so. what he was satisfied with was that he went and told the american people the truth as i mentioned polls show most americans governor romney won the debate. you can see it's not even close in this cnn survey. but almost half the viewers also said the
, carl. >> hi, brett. the romney campaign could hardly be more excited about what happened last night. in fact, since the debate ended, they say they've been getting two donations per second as a measure of mitt romney's success the morning after is general election debate debut against the president, mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a thrilled and leaved audience of conservatives. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. >> he reiterated a new attack. >> trickle down government that the president proposes is one where he will raise taxes on small business, which will kill jobs. i instead want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. >> romney awoke to rave reviews across the country and democrats admit he delivered. >> virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. that's the wrong way to go. we know that the path we're taking is not work that you're entitled to your own plane and house but not your own facts. >> quoting, though not by name, saying the middle
what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. >> bill: the democratic party itself calling mitt romney a liar. will that help president obama's cause? we'll take a hard look at that question. >> you are preparing to the rumble with colbert and a chicken. >> i wanted to work on speed and chased a chicken around the studio. >> get him, get him, get him. >> you are so going down saturday night. >> now you have angered me. >> bill: another big debate looms tomorrow, the rummible between stewart and o'reilly. gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts. >> i'm going to say a bunch of stuff and then you are just going to go. [growling] >> bill: also tonight the first poll since the big debate and they are fascinating. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ bill built hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats striking back. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. upfront we have some brand new polling by rasmussen, the first taken since the big debate. in the must-win state of florida. governor romney now le
a liar mitt romney is and was last night. if he was talking, he was -- testifies speaking last night, he was lying. mitt romney had a good night, but, you know, even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> brian: 09 minutes -- 90 minutes? that's like if off lucky question, that would be an apt analogy. but we don't even know any blind squirrels. >> gretchen: how will romney go on the response mode to these attacks? he did so last night on the sean hannity program. here he is reacting to the president's damage control yesterday. >> i have watched some of the attacks that have come my way. you just shake your head. i do recall that the president's acceptance speech four years ago, he said that if you don't have a record to run on, you attack your opponent. you try and disqualify your opponent and early on in this campaign, there were democrats strategists, one in particular who said their campaign strategy was to kill romney. hopefully not literally. this kind of character assassination is something which i think has gone way too far and i think is an unfortunate part of this ca
on wednesday night. the question for paul ryan is can he protect in a way mitt romney's achievement and can he consolidate it and after the romney debate after the ryan debate in a sense can it confirm what romney did. i think it is a very important moment. vice president biden will try very hard to retrospecktively discredit mitt romney's victory. he will say maybe obama was off his game a little. he won't say that but implication. all lies, deception, flip flopping, big mirage that you saw for 90 minutes. biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent? >> he is totally going to do that. not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of
't necessarily think -- you know, it is degrees of weakness and i think governor romney had a very strong night. section on sec hundred on entitlements he didn't necessarily look the best and seemed to be the moment where he wasn't as sure of himself on the arguments as he was on the rest of the debate. he was very strong on tax policy and economic policy and used that $90 billion figure to a great advantage twice. useused it against the presidet on energy policy and used it against them on education policy. but during the section on he entitlements he didn't necessarily seem to be at his strongest but still certainly much stronger than the president. >> chris: i want to ask you about a moment that you didn't bring up that has got and lot of attention. let's take a look at this one. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love big bird and i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for are it. >> was that smart as a way to show that he is serious about cutting spend or is it always a mistake t
and economists have said that mitt romney has embraced for 18 months, until wednesday night, that he has a $5 trillion tax cut plan, skewed toward the wealthy and he has no details in terms of deductions or anything like that. and the independent experts that have lookad it say you have to increase taxes on the middle class to get to that 20% rate cut and $5 trillion that are skewed toward the wealthy. an average middle class family would see an average of $2,000 increase. there is no running away from that. a different mitt romney was breathtakingly dishonest on that stage. >> shannon: congresswoman, is it fair to say that there are going to be $5 trillion in cuts, even if you want to concede the point, even though sevny cutter stipulates that that is not true that, it would be a $5 trillion cut. it's only part of the story because, of course, there will be other revenue suggestions and way to make up the revenue. how do you respond? >> well, we have no idea. look, shannon, i said as a member of the budget commit. i am a former member of the appropriations committee. chairman priebeus, i am
killed jobs. >> that was governor mitt romney wednesday night attacking the president on his administration's signature piece of legislatures, obamacare. so, mary, this is typically democratic turf. health care, where did romney score on that issue? >> well, i think he did two things very effectively. one was, remember when he first started running for president against, in the primary when john mccain was the candidate? he tended to like to talk about data, and we even joked how he was so focused on data. >> paul: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of focusing on that, romney is saying, you spent two years trying to pass one of your b
of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking, if he was speaking last night, he was lying. look, mitt romney had a good night, but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> it's the old classic a broken clock is right twice a day. >> so the argument is that president obama was so shell-shocked, i guess he got up there on the podium he was so shell shocked he couldn't believe the lies coming from mitt romney he didn't know how to respond for two hours. >> that's ridiculous. >> don't you think the voters would prefer the president's team to say you know what? he had an off night. he overprepared. underprepared too busy being president. mitt romney a liar that's the best you can do. >> maybe mitt romney did really well. congratulations to you. i can't wait to get to october 16th when we can try this again. >> you thought so much of the primary season mitt romney was running to the right of the party saying he was severely conservative all of these things he was saying to say how conservative he was. he
tomorrow night. republicans say the vice president, joe biden, has given governor romney some new ammo for that debate on night number one. we'll hear from both sides. you can take away the car keys, but how do you keep somebody from driving drunk when they're on a horse? oh, yeah. that's coming up. on the fox report. stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions that turn fans into customers... to events that engage and create buzz... to e-mails that keep loyal customers coming back, our easy-to-use tools will keep you in front of your customers. see what's right for you at constantcontact.com/try. >> bill: we are about to get more personal with our snow storms here in america. the weather channel has announced it will assign names to the most intense winter storms beginning this year. this is coming from the tv network. not the national weather service, which already names hurricanes out of florida. but one expert says giving each big snow storm a name should help raise public awareness of the dangerous weather. and a weath
was and who they would be. and i think mitt romney just so pulled that off the other night. and it is showing in the polls and every place else. >> i thought it interesting. right after the debate. this is the best debate by a republican since lincoln. >> that's what i said. it is easy to say best since reagan. everybody said that. my father remember a line here and there when he debated jimmie cart yer mondale and they are great debates of course. but the debate that mitt romney put on. it was a mitt romney debate. not reagan. the depraspness of the issues and the way he went and from the beginning to the end. there great moments all the way through. there were not just one but many. that was the best debate since lincoln and i say that to honor mitt romney for what he did and not tie him to ronald reagan. we make a mistake when we look for ronald reagan. we were not looking for lincoln when we found reagan. and we were looking for a landlorder and we found one the other night. >> so many conservatives feel your father set the high bar in the presidential debates. >> i think they probably di
. >> romney advisors are just hoping for a solid performance. no knock-outs on wednesday night. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. >> romney advisors told me they don't expect that they could level knock-out blow against president obama. the skilled debaters such as he is. always playing the expectation game. bret? >> bret: john, thanks. >> we're just five weeks and one day away from election day. and a little more than 48 hours from the first debate here in colorado. there is more focus than ever on the battleground state, colorado of course one of them. and how the electoral college race is shaping up. join me again today and karl ro senior advisor who is in new york. back in washington, democratic strategist joe trippi. as we do every week we look at the electoral map. info on the key. red states are romney states. blue, obama. then the pinkish lean romney. light blue, lean obama. then the yellow states are tossup states. within the margin of error. this is all based on the polls within the last 30 days. okay, karl, what has changed in the last week si
wednesday night here is reference to mitt romney's comment on that videotape about the now infamous 47%. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that story and the rest of the debate prep from here in denver. >> day before facing off with president obama in denver, romney attended staff meetings and stepped out for mexican fast food with the ohio senator rob portman, the man playing the president in the mock debate rehearsals. his wife ann hit the trail in his stead. >> we're focused and i can't wait for the contrast we're going to hear tomorrow. >> campaigning in iowa, running mate paul ryan asked about the confession that 47% who don't pay income taxes think government owes them. >> get them a job so they're good taxpayers. >> we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. we added 50 million people to food stamp rolls in the last four years because there is no opportunity, no economic growth. >> in the debate, romney is sure to be asked what is now shorthanded as his 47% remarks. he previewed his explanation to denver fox affiliate. >> i'm a president for 100% of t
romney we saw on wednesday night, we have to see it again and again and again. and his campaign, greg, needs to make us see him. we are a little stressed in analyzing this race that since thursday morning they are not capitalizing well enough. their tv ads are not running clips from the debate highlighting the great performance. it is not on the ads. >> it has changed a little bit. i want to ask you about the performants because people say well, that was not really president obama, he was off the game. if you actually watch president obama without a teleprompter in news conferences, he fumbles, stumbles and mumbles, he goes on and on like a recovery and he never answered the question. >> that is true. he did not draw a clear distinction between him record and the positions that governor romney has taken. john is right, he did not make the kind of charges he has made successfully about cutting medicare and medicaid, social security. the bottom line, romney was able to move to the center, obama fell apart, i think, even worse than you are saying. he looked like he was not up to the job.
celebrating his wedding anniversary, as you know fell on the night of the debate. so mitt romney was unencumbered on the campaign trail. there was no response that the president could give to anything that mitt romney did. and mitt romney seemed to energize after the debate. >> every year the median income has gone down, 4,300 a family ab with average family income around 50,000 bucks, that hurts. gasoline prices are up twice what they used to be. these are tough years for the middle class and for the poor in america. and if we calculate it, by the way, our unemployment rate in a way that was consistent with the way it was calculated when he came into office, be a different number. if the number of people shall the percentage of the american population in the work force were the same today as the day he was elected, unemployment rate would be above 11%, this is inexcusable in a nation so prosperous of ours, that four years of a presidency has not been able to get america back on track. he can't, he doesn't know now, i know now and i'll get the job done. >> a bet that most of the
for president obama? >> steve: what should mr. romney do come wednesday night out in denver . we'll share the comments later on in the telecast. >> gretchen: next a warning for parents. u.s. about to face a massive diaper shortage. i am glad i am out of the diaper stage. >> eric: how john 23rd shaped the catholic church and world as we know it. ♪ ve lately. but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. >> eric: quicked had lines. are we headed for a world wide diaper shortage. there was a chemical explosion in japan and production has come to a halt. that creates 1-fifth of the world's diapers. strong winds from a typhoon in japan picked up a car and sent it flying . the winds clocked at 80 miles per hour. steve? >> steve: i come out and how did the car get there? october the commencement of the 2nd vatican counsel.
to be lacking on tuesday night. and accusing romney at shocking dishonesty and even though the deputy campaign acknowledged that tax cut would not be nearly 5 trillion dollars, it's something that the president repeated in cleveland. >> we put two wars a two tax cuts on a credit card. we didn't pay for them. now, mr. romney wants another 5 trillion dollars in tax cuts that he can't pay for. we're not going to let that happen. we are not going to fall backward, not with so much at stake. >> reporter: governor romney answering in the ad wars, as well. a new ad featuring melanie mack that mara that voted for president obama back in 2008. this time around she says she is going to vote for mitt romney. one of the views from the obama campaign, they had an amazing fund-raising month, $181 million raised. that a little bit less than what they raised in september 2008 but it does bring them closer that billion dollar mark in fund-raising for the year. >> gregg: john roberts live in apopka, florida. thanks very much. >> heather: expectations high for round two of the presidential debate. the issue of y
with the romney campaign for not making more of this. you know, romney came out late at night, the night of september 11th, after this had happened, but before he knew that ambassador stevens had been killed, came out, criticized the statement that had come out of the cairo embassy about the -- about the demonstrations there. then got a huge amount of criticism. as the facts began to pile up against obama, the romney campaign stayed somewhat silent, and has still to this day not made a lot of the problems that developed. >> the debate is built entirely around foreign policy. if romney doesn't take advantage of that platform to raise questions, again, poke holes in the president's arguments -- >> greta: why isn't he now? this is coming from the super pac. >> i think the romney campaign thinks it can wait that long, at least some people in the romney campaign, think it can wait, and want to do his foreign policy right before that debate, so there's some bringing together of these arguments. i think the time is now. you had governor romney asked about this last week on his plane. you know,
presidential election, but is still a massive amount of money, last night, talking to the romney campaign and the big fund-raising dollars the obama campaign was putting up, romney staffers smiled as if to suggest they might top it. >> arthel: and also a statement, romney pushing his tax policy, this weekend, right? >> reporter: of course in the wake of the debate in which the romney campaign it really defined the race, a choice between a dependency society with rising taxes that could hurt the recovery, versus the romney agenda which could cut taxes and rely fully on a smaller government and individual responsibility and entrepreneurial spirit and the romney campaign is attacking ever harder. here's a sample from last night. >> it has been calculated his tax plan raising taxes will cost 700,000 jobs. i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with robhe senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of m
tomorrow night of imcompetence. look, mitt romney, it's all on him. all on him. all president obama has to do is basically just be himself and not say anything, just repeat the same old thing. mitt romney has to convince the american people that going forward, he's a better alternative than the president. it's not going to be easy. so he's going to have to paint the president as an incompetent. this libya thing can be part of that, but certainly the economy, way more important to the folks than libya. but he can weave it. the second thing is that romney has got to kind of put aside his politician persona. i mean, he looks perfect, right? he looks like a president should look. but that's not working against him because people don't know who he is. he's got to find a way to say look, this is who i am. this is why i'm better. in very simple terms. it's daunting task for the governor. >> gretchen: yeah, it is. because if he comes across as sort of being in attack mode, which a lot of republicans want him to be, then the press might say, oh, wow. he really went too far. >> he can't care abou
: tomorrow night is the domestic policy. tomorrow night is about domestic policy. i bet romney finds a way to bring this in. when you talk about domestic policy you are talking about our security as well. >> eric: one more thing he might want to bring up. not far from libya, but two border agents shot and one died today 306789-year-old nicolas aye i have. he may want to say something since it's domestic policy, what have you done about the border, mr. president? what do you plan to do about the boarder in the next four years? >> bob: it surprises you that border agents die? >> eric: it's surprising we're still sending $1.3 billion to pakistan. >> greg: it should bother us. >> bob: it's an explosive area where people have guns. not the administration's fault people get killed. >> andrea: it's not? >> eric: >> bob: no. >> andrea: john bolton in new york has three security guards. >> eric: valerie jarret has a security detail flying her around the country. >> andrea: what is most troubling to know there is a revival of radical islam. the intelligence community. could you imagine being an inte
to campaign carl cammeron with the romney camp. carl, this is his big night. what's the thinking about the mood in that campaign? >> well, they kept mr. romney under wraps today in order to keep him focused. he had a very brief meeting with his senior staff and great deal today was actually spent with his staff. they don't want to leave it in the locker room they want him to come out and bring best game this evening. they are quite confident about it by virtue stepping on to the stage tonight as the challenger, mitt romney has the most to gain. they fully expect by virtue of standing next to the president there could be a bounce in the polls as a consequence of that. having said all of they're, the race to lower's examines appears to have been won by mr. rom anymore. the latest gallup poll shows fairly decisively when it comes to who voters thinks will win the debates president obama has a substantial lead. there you see it, 57% think president obama will win the three presidential debates in the next three and a half, four weeks and that governor romney will lose them or at least a th
obama for having not brought up in the debate the other night. criticizing mr. romney for his now 5 month old remarks to a closed fundraiser surreptitiously videoed that he suggested 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes are looking for some sort of government handout. first he called it inelegant. never defended it and never renounced it last night on the hannity show he did so summarily. watched? >> in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> completely wrong. a big jump from inelegant. having said that the romney campaign would like very much to close the chapter on this and get it behind them. the democrats today, the obama campaign, the democratic national committee and a whole bunch of other groups were firing off attack ads and groups trying to keep it center stage right through the presidential debate next week and the two presidential debates that follow. >> as you pointed out, carl it, didn't come up in this past debate may very well close the door on it yet. carl cammero
in 08. no word for the romney campaign. but when i talked to staffers last night and discussed the obama total of over 181 million dollars. they all smiled and grinned and said perhaps we can top that. they haven't said that is the case. for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high
debate between barak obama and mitt romney is tomorrow night and the campaigns are doing whatever they can to get ready. actually i heard that the obama campaign is a little worried 'cause during his flight to nevada on sunday, the president apparently watched four hours of football instead of studying. [ laughter ] although it did mark the first time all year obama has seen something get passed. [ laughter ] >> steve: funny. >> brian: i did not hear that. is that the premise of that joke true? that he watched four hours of football? >> martha: you can also go back to the notion that it shouldn't take that much studying to get ready for this. >> steve: you should know. >> martha: they've been working on these issues, they've been campaigning on these issues across the country for months and months and months. does it really take that much studying to get ready for this? >> brian: is it wrong to disagree with martha? >> martha: absolutely. ask hemmer. >> brian: i think it's totally different when someone is coming at you and saying you're wrong about this and defending something yo
to the commander-in-chief test, governor romney fails on all levels, harris. >> john, let's talk about thursday night. denext debate featuring the vice-presidential nominees and i know, anticipation is already building. >> oh, yeah, absolutely, you know, you've got two people here who are very skilled and know what they're talking about and governor ryan's challenge to make sure he doesn't get too deep into the weeds for vice-president biden, to avoid the gaffe he's prone to on the campaign trail. at least he's skilled enough he won't make one of the gaffe at the vice-presidential debate. and people are still talking about the debate last wednesday on the sunday shows, excomplaining or lauding their candidates performance. and here is what he said. >> governor romney laid out a plan tore turning the economy around and a fact-based kret teak of the president's failed policy the president was unable to respond to and today, and since then, the obama campaign, they reminded me a little bit of a seven-year-old losing a checker gain and then instead of, you know, being frustrated at the outcome, the
in denver wednesday night. tonight on "special report," mitt romney spent much of the day today in boston preparing for his first meeting on the debate stage with president obama. the debate will focus on domestic policy. the president is doing his debate prep in a resort area of lake las vegas. crowd of 11,000 turned out for late sunday night rally. the president is downplaying any advantage he might have. brit hume is in washington with the facts and fiction on the latest obama economic message. amazing video from afghanistan. we will put you in the middle of the firefight. more questions about policy in afghanistan. "special report" starts at 6:00. now back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: here is an idea for matt damon's next film. he should play an actor who is in cahoots with foreign countries to undermine his own country energy needs. a perfect method for matt because it is mat. his new flick has middle east backing. it has matt as evil oil man forcing small towns to adopt fracking to get natural oil and gas from the ground. here is a clip, mr. clippe
thing governor rom romney has to do, they have to keep their foot on the accelerator. he had a terrific victory. but i wouldn't rest at all. looking forward to this thing, next week, next thursday night. that's going to be important. the second debate will be important. i heard someone say, governor romney, really, obama should be favored. he's good at that format, moving around. but how does he attack romney? they will tell him to do it. they are talking about bain capital, that reduce it's. >> greta: i thought he was smart not to do that -- he wants to look presidential. he doesn't want his fingerprints on petty and going after someone. i think it is same is true of governor romney, vis-a-vis president obama. they can flood the market with the super pacs. >> exactly, exactly. if the president goes at the 47% and bain capital and the tax returns, it diminishes the president and it reduces him from the presidential level. and it makes him look petty and it makes hymn him look not like his greatest asset is that people say he's a nice guy who has been doing his best. he gets into that mo
think president obama had a good night. >> jon: the comment that challengers always get a boost. nobody seemed to want to say mitt romney won because mitt romney won. >> it was amazing even msnbc had to carry on as if someone in the family had died. it was as piston irk but it was a rare moment of consensus in the press because the press basically agreed romney had won. that must have been painful to admit that but it was obvious. >> jon: they were waiting for a mitt romney gaffe. they were going to pounce upon that and it didn't happen? >> no, it certainly did not. i was not one of the mainstream liberal media but middle stream liberal media that was very upset how the presidential did. i have a theory about why he did as well. that is this white house as opposed to the bush white house and the clinton white house has been much more protective usually only the five or six television mainstream people get questioned. he doesn't engage in the sort of back and forth. even president bush had off the record west side radio people. he doesn't get to hear what some of the little stream media
to the races. i hope and i want to see that tomorrow night. will i? >>guest: i don't know if you will or not. i have been waiting for romney to come hitting the growth agenda and low rate flat tax-and-spending reductions and the other ways of bringing the national debt down. i have not seen it. the 4 percent tax rate came out i thought he said he was proud of paying 14 percent and everyone else should pay 14 percent. i shouldn't be the only one paying 14 percent. he did not do it that way. i hope this time he does. if he does the growth message like ronald reagan, he could win the election but it has to be truly credible and not appear as though he is apologetic. >>neil: what i learned on fox business network talking to these two retired senators, they recognize how surprisingly easy it is just to talk about a democrat in the indicate of sam nunn, slowing down the growth of entitlements and from senator bennett, a republican, closing loop hes and credits that allow some not to pay taxes at all. ronald reagan would tell you, it is not a tax hike. however, we get so dog mattic and fixed in our po
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